ManchVegas

The whole Paul Hamm controversy at the Olympics is a total joke. Now the International Gymnastics Federation (not related to the United Federation of Planets, though both clearly have members from another planet) want Paul Hamm to ... ummm... VOLUNTARILY give up his gold to the South Korean guy, because they didn't have the guts (or for that matter, the right) to take it from him.

First off, folks, while everyone is saying that there was a judging mistake against the SK guy that cost him points, the NBC commentator (a former gymnast) took the guy's routine thru slow mo and pointed out where he clearly could have actually LOST points that would have taken him out of medal contention entirely, but nobody wants to talk about that. And if we're going down this road, let's change the whole setup entirely: have the meet, then spend the next week analyzing it on video, then announce the results. Then argue anyway.

They make a big deal on one bad call while not making note of the other bad call on the same routine, and how about every other event and routine that was part of the whole meet, for every athlete? You mean to tell me they judged all the others perfect? Hard to believe. And why isn't the US protesting that these dipshit judges suddenly decided that the US gymnasts routines that had a potential of 10.0 for years suddently, a couple of the days before the meet, are only worth 9.9, thus forcing them to suddenly change their routines, costing the team the team gold? Maybe because they decided it was part of the game, just deal with it.

Of course the SK IOC is clueless: at the last winter games they brought a speed skater whose whole job was apparently to fall down and knock out the rest of the skaters like it was bowling for medals, then bitched when he got DQ'ed for being so incompetent.

The problem is some people don't get that in JUDGED events things get missed - hell, football refs miss shit all the time, why not in gymnastics?

Bottom line, if you're going to watch or be in these sports, then get a clue and live with the fact that nothing is perfect. And what a bunch of pussys the IGF is for putting the onus on the athlete to cover up their fuckups. The USOC was great: they didn't even forward the letter with this "request" to Hamm, Ueberroth just sent them a reply which, succinctly boiled down, said, "Fuck you if you can't deal with your own fuckups". You go, Peter.

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Bean

I've never really enjoyed the olympics. It's supposed to represent the best of the best of the best, that humanity has to offer, coming together in some kind of unprejudiced harmony. In actuality, it's always seemed to bring out the worst in everyone, and display the wrst humanity has to offer.

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Stag

FUCK 'EM.

I wouldn't give the medal back...Sorry guys you ficked up, you want the SK guy to have one, give him another one.

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iamspenagain

I wish I could fick up, that sounds like fun.

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Stag

Yeah, it is just like fuck up, but with more emphasis on the F,C & K. The vowel is irrelevant

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Bean

Vowels SUCK!

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Cymro

That's odd, seing as you just used four

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iamspenagain

I count three.

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Cymro

oweu <-- that's four!!!

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Brikar

"W" isn't a vowel.

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