re-colored NX-01 bridge - Page 3

Brikar · 08-15-2004, 02:53 PM

People often rail GEN as being an extended episode or some such, but it really was a good-looking film, with a visual style that was quite different from the show. Expanding their shots out to 2.35 widescreen and altering the lighting the way they did... I just don't understand when people say that these movies look like episodes. It just doesn't plain make any sense, especially when you know anything about the difference between movies and TV (which, admittedly, gets smaller all the time).

Cymro · 08-15-2004, 04:46 PM

I didn't think FC or Nemesis looked like TV episodes, nor did I think any of the TOS films did, even TFF. The fact is the TNG film sets, lighting, filming, costuming and make up were done by more or less the same people as the TV series. The advantage the TOS films had was that they basically started from scratch, so everything was movie quality from the outset, with only a couple of TNG sets being used for quick shots in the later films. All the TNG films used TV costumes, a lot of TV props, GEN was nearly all TV sets, and up until NEM some of the Enterprise-E sets bore an uncanny resemblance to those seen on Voyager.

Brikar · 08-15-2004, 05:00 PM

They may have bore some resemblance, but after "Generations" all the props and sets from the TNG TV series were done and over. That included new phasers and tricorders, corridors, the bridge, Picard's ready room, new costumes from "First Contact" on (that were later adopted by "Deep Space Nine"). "Insurrection" redressed Voyager's engineering bay to be the ship's library, and "First Contact" used Voyager's sickbay, but other than that, everything in the latter 3 TNG movies was completely new. "Nemesis" even replaced the Sickbay with a completely new set, since the Voyager set was gone. As for using the costumes... only "Generations" used costumes from the TV series. DS9 adopted the "First Contact" style uniforms after the movie, and then used the white dress uniforms after they first appeared in "Insurrection". DS9 didn't even do its own FC-style admiral's uniform until after they'd designed one for "Insurrection".

Stag · 09-07-2004, 02:31 PM

Hey Brik, check out some of the bridge photos this guy put on his site. Looks like the ENT boys took some of your suggestions to add color to the NX01 bridge. Except instead of red, they used light blue on the door and the hand rails.

http://khmx.com/jacor-common/globalp...t=Morning_Show

Cymro · 09-07-2004, 06:55 PM

They used the Voyager sick bay in FC and Insurrection, as well as the shuttle interiors, not to mention the fact that I once saw Riker and Troi take a bath together in Janeway's ready room, plus the whole style of the sets and costuming is very TV, because the people who made them usually work on TV.

08-15-2004, 02:53 PM	#21 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	People often rail GEN as being an extended episode or some such, but it really was a good-looking film, with a visual style that was quite different from the show. Expanding their shots out to 2.35 widescreen and altering the lighting the way they did... I just don't understand when people say that these movies look like episodes. It just doesn't plain make any sense, especially when you know anything about the difference between movies and TV (which, admittedly, gets smaller all the time). __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

08-15-2004, 04:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	I didn't think FC or Nemesis looked like TV episodes, nor did I think any of the TOS films did, even TFF. The fact is the TNG film sets, lighting, filming, costuming and make up were done by more or less the same people as the TV series. The advantage the TOS films had was that they basically started from scratch, so everything was movie quality from the outset, with only a couple of TNG sets being used for quick shots in the later films. All the TNG films used TV costumes, a lot of TV props, GEN was nearly all TV sets, and up until NEM some of the Enterprise-E sets bore an uncanny resemblance to those seen on Voyager. __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

08-15-2004, 05:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	They may have bore some resemblance, but after "Generations" all the props and sets from the TNG TV series were done and over. That included new phasers and tricorders, corridors, the bridge, Picard's ready room, new costumes from "First Contact" on (that were later adopted by "Deep Space Nine"). "Insurrection" redressed Voyager's engineering bay to be the ship's library, and "First Contact" used Voyager's sickbay, but other than that, everything in the latter 3 TNG movies was completely new. "Nemesis" even replaced the Sickbay with a completely new set, since the Voyager set was gone. As for using the costumes... only "Generations" used costumes from the TV series. DS9 adopted the "First Contact" style uniforms after the movie, and then used the white dress uniforms after they first appeared in "Insurrection". DS9 didn't even do its own FC-style admiral's uniform until after they'd designed one for "Insurrection". __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

09-07-2004, 02:31 PM	#24 (permalink)
Stag It's me again Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Florida Posts: 3,286	Hey Brik, check out some of the bridge photos this guy put on his site. Looks like the ENT boys took some of your suggestions to add color to the NX01 bridge. Except instead of red, they used light blue on the door and the hand rails. http://khmx.com/jacor-common/globalp...t=Morning_Show __________________ "I want to do a motorboat on Shatner's manboobs" - Sam Cogley

09-07-2004, 06:55 PM	#25 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	They used the Voyager sick bay in FC and Insurrection, as well as the shuttle interiors, not to mention the fact that I once saw Riker and Troi take a bath together in Janeway's ready room, plus the whole style of the sets and costuming is very TV, because the people who made them usually work on TV. __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

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