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WOW, those must be good fries...

Cops: Woman stabs cousin to death over french fries
September 13, 2004

BY MAUREEN O'DONNELLStaff Reporter

They'd known each other all their lives, but Antoinette Jenkins stabbed her cousin in the heart Sunday in an argument over french fries, Chicago Police said.

Antoine Jenkins, 19, "died for a dollar,'' a police source said. "They got into an argument over a 99-cent box of White Castle french fries.''

Antoinette Jenkins, also 19, fled after the stabbing and was found later Sunday in a hotel, said Austin District Lt. Wade Ingram.

"She had all the White Castle stuff all over the hotel room,'' Ingram said

Antoine's mother, Joyce Jenkins, said her heart goes out to her sister, Antoinette's mother.

"It's my sister's daughter,'' she said quietly. "She's tore up, too.''

And despite her grief, Joyce Jenkins made a public plea Sunday for people to be kind to one another.

"They need to control it, think first, before they react,'' she said.

The fight was "stupid, that's what it was,'' Joyce Jenkins said.

She said she thinks her niece was intoxicated at the time of the stabbing outside 17 S. Leamington, next-door to where both cousins lived.

"Antoine, he's not a violent child,'' his mother said, still speaking of him in the present tense. "He gets along with everybody.''

The cousins had visited the White Castle at Madison and Pulaski, Joyce Jenkins said. Oddly, she is the manager of a White Castle at North and Central.

"This morning, my sister called me and said they got to fightin,' '' Joyce Jenkins said. "They got to fightin,' arguin' about something, and Antoinette just got a knife and stabbed him. . . . over a hamburger or something.''

Antoine attended Austin High School, his mother said.

"My family is here with me, comforting me,'' Joyce Jenkins said. "Got to hold on.''

Antoinette Jenkins was being held at the police department's Area 5 facility, Ingram said.

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I'd give both him and his mom the electric chair.

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Gitch

Fry em!

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Daxie

How stupid can people get? French Fries???? White Castle fries at that? C'mon people!

People need to start taking resposibility for their actions and if the parents aren't going to teach responsibility to their children, then they're at as much fault as the child is.

Yep... I agree... the mother should go down too.

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Gitch

In my experience those sorts of suggestions made in the heat of passion can be a real no-no.

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Bean

Yeah, but they make things real simple though

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Daxie

Actually it's not coming from "heat of passion". I've always believed that if a minor commits a crime that severe, the parents should be as much accountable as the child who commited the crime.

When I was growing up I was taught right from wrong, as were my friends, but in the recent years we see an increase of these stupid crimes... kids killing each other over fries, because their friend made a pass at his/her boyfriend/girlfriend, someone wore the same dress to the prom as the other... it's all so stupid.

Now we see kids beating up, or "hazing" others on sprots teams, kids bringing guns and hit lists to school, kids raping other kids. Where are the parents at to teach their kids that these things are wrong and there are serious consiquences for these actions?

In my own neighborhood I see little kids (3-5 years old) running in the middle of the street at 11:00 at night. The other day I saw a girl not much more that 14 on the corner prostituting. Recently, a 17 year old was convected of murder, he was tried as an adult because the judge felt that he "showed no remorse for his actions".

Again, where are the parents at to tell their kids that this is wrong?

Sorry, but I feel that if the parents realize that they could also go to jail if their kids commit a crime, and I'm not talking about stealing bubble gum from the corner store or sneeking into the movies, I mean serious crimes, then maybe the parents will wake up and start taking resposibility to teach their kids not to do these things.

BTW... on a more personal note, my dad used to go hunting and had a lot of guns in the house, to this day I remember him sitting me down when I was 4 or 5 and showing me one of the guns. He told me that they were not toys and what could happen if you shot a person with a gun. He also taught me to always treat a gun as if it were loaded. I'll never forget that talk, I was taught at an early age what guns can do and what would happen to someone if I shot them, but most importantly, what would happen to me if I kill someone.

Now that's being a resposible parent.

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Brikar

I think there should be some kind of screening process for having kids. I'm not talking about some kind of national birth control like in those sci-fi movies like "Fortress", but something so that parents get at least some small amount of training on how NOT to fuck up their kids, and if they're unfit parents, then they shouldn't have them. That sounds a bit harsh, but, y'know, if you can't do it, you sure as hell should NOT be having kids!

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The British government has flirted with parenting classes on and off for sometime. At the moment they are court imposed, but there have been proposals for them to be made more available. Unfortunately the Blair government is acutely aware of accusations of it being a "Nanny government" - sometimes justified, sometimes not.

The problem will be as much one of presentation anything else, and they need the tabloids on their side. These courses will need to be a mix of practical information (ie an extension of antenatal clases for example) - how to enroll your kids in a school and more advice on general parenting skills. In some respects we've missed the boat. Some decades ago it could have been sold as an extension of what your parents are already telling you - ie listen to Grandma and in addition consider this. Unfortunately we are now having third generation shit parents. Many of the kids my mother teaches (6-7 yrs old) have parents and grandparents who don't have a clue and should never be used as an example - but how do you tell someone "forget what your mum and dad did they were wrong".

From my own perspective, I am not contemplating kids anytime soon but the idea fills me with some dread. I like to think that I will listen to my parents advice (who I think did apretty good job) but I would also like some sound advice from colleagues and professionals.

In the 5 years I've worked in my lab, 5 women have had their first child and it has been illuminating to watch and listen to the old hands talking about their experiences and giving all sorts of advice I had never even considered (for example practical things such as spend good money on the clothes that he kids will wear every day but buy their "party" clothes in a sale - kids grow so quick it is silly to do otherwise. Something that is entirely logical when explained but not necessarily intuitive).

I am also in favour of parent-teacher contracts. Over the last 20 years I have wtached my mother turn from the person that teaches kids how to read and write to a glorified babysitter who has to teach kids to dress themselves after sports and take them to the toilet (I kid you not!). A woman in work, whose child starts school this year was concerned and my mother wrote down her wishlist for a kid coming into her class - which so many parents don't follow.

i.e. be able to dress oneself and tie shoelaces, be able to count (preferably upto 100 but at least 10) - be able to recognise the sahpes of letter of the alphabet and name common animals when they see a picture. This last provided me with the amusing and rather sweet sight of a chinese lady singing the alphabet song to her 4 yearold daughter - I've never jeard it sunf quite that way before! :-)

Take an active interest in the child from an early age and my Mum is convinced that the effects will last a lifetime.

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Daxie

Your mum is right.

I can also relate to how she feels about becoming a "babysitter" instead of being a teacher, I've heard so many teachers complain about feeling the same way.

The sad thing is that today, so many "parents" (I use that term loosely) think that the schools are resposible for raising their children.

I agree that parenting classes should be mandatory for anyone who is becoming, or thinking about becoming a parent, as well as testing for a child before entering school. If the child is unable to do the basic things, i.e. tie shoelaces, know his/her shapes and basic counting skills, the child should be held back from entering school... barring of corse the child has mental problems.

I also feel that entering a child into preschool should be mandatory as well, as it can help the child's mental and social development.

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