Capitol Records : Thou hast madeth the list!

Cymro · 11-21-2004, 10:22 PM

OK, so I've bought almost 20 CDs since September, and I've been using them more or less constantly, and I know that in a month's time they'll all be fucked, and I don't want to spend another £160 on replacements, so I'm backing them up, and guess what? All my Megadeth remix/remaster albums are refusing to be backed up, while the new Megadeth release is going fine (different label). Bastards!!!!!!

Bean · 11-21-2004, 10:29 PM

BASTARDS!!! Who's have thought that the record companies would start to use technology that would impede digital copying techniques! It's OUTRAGEOUS!! Completley and totally absurd! I mean, don't they trust us? Do the really think that people are going to start sharing these copied discs online or something? My GAWD!! (end sarcasm)

Cymro · 11-21-2004, 10:39 PM

Hey, I have a right to my back-up. Besides, don't these people realise that whatever move they make to copy protect shit, some nerd smewhere finds a way to counteract it and then spreads it on the net. Pricks.

If they don't want me making copies of my music then they should provide free CD replacements for when the shitty 1980s throwbacks get too damaged, but NO I have to buy the same fucking CD a billion times now don't I?

Bean · 11-21-2004, 11:04 PM

When I buy a television and it wears out after a year or two, I don't expect the manufacturer to send me a new one. Nor when I buy a book that I read over and over again do I expect the publisher to send me a new copy when the pages get worn. I understand the whole "fair use" argument, and agree with it for the most part, but the argument that cd's get worn over time isn't a valid one IMO. Now when it comes to making digital copies of your music so that you can use it in MP3 playes and the like, fine, that's a good argument, but IMHO the need to backup your discs isn't a good enough reason.

BTW: My original response was intended to be humorous

Cymro · 11-21-2004, 11:28 PM

Well, I have an mp3 player built into my phone (which is why i bought the phone in the firstplace), which was £80, and an mp3 player in my car, which was £140, plus the fact that books and TVs last much longer unless you spill something on them. My dad has books that are still in good condition since the 60s, and one's he's gotten a lot of use out of too. TVs will last a good 5-10 years under heavy use.

EDIT: Peace Sells is ripping away as I type. Another triumph of the nerds over corporate assholes!

Bean · 11-22-2004, 12:38 AM

Well, I see your point as for the MP3 devices, but I have cds that are at least 6 years old, and they still play just fine. Talking about the fragility of a disc isn't IMO a plausible argument either. What do you do when you want something to last a long time, you treat it with care.

Books on the other hand, I have many books that last MAYBE two years. I read alot of the same books over and over again. Hell, I'm on something like my fifth copy of a TNG novel "A rock and a hard place", and I don't complain.

As for TV's well, just an example, but I'm willing to bet taht not everyone has the same luck with the lifespan/ Not to mention the fact that you can pay anywhere from 150, well into thousands of dollars for a tv, a cd costs what? Like 30 bucks?

Cymro · 11-22-2004, 12:45 AM

£10. I do treat CDs with care, I NEVER leave them outside the case or player, yet they still manage to scratch themselves. I have old CDs that still play, but only because I never use them. All my favourite Metallica CDs are totally fucked though, and they are my prized possesions, though incidentally, I would not be opposed to re-purchasing those CDs in particular.

Bean · 11-22-2004, 12:47 AM

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Cymro stopped drinking long enough to mumble

yet they still manage to scratch themselves.

What? They grow fucking arms and scratch themselves in the middle of the night? I have a few cds that are about 5 years old, and I listen to t hem on a regular basis. They still play.

Cymro · 11-22-2004, 12:49 AM

maybe I should pour hot butter on them to stop them from scratching themselves

Bean · 11-22-2004, 12:50 AM

It doesn't work man.... just burns and burns and burns....

11-21-2004, 10:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	Capitol Records : Thou hast madeth the list! OK, so I've bought almost 20 CDs since September, and I've been using them more or less constantly, and I know that in a month's time they'll all be fucked, and I don't want to spend another £160 on replacements, so I'm backing them up, and guess what? All my Megadeth remix/remaster albums are refusing to be backed up, while the new Megadeth release is going fine (different label). Bastards!!!!!! __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

11-21-2004, 10:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	BASTARDS!!! Who's have thought that the record companies would start to use technology that would impede digital copying techniques! It's OUTRAGEOUS!! Completley and totally absurd! I mean, don't they trust us? Do the really think that people are going to start sharing these copied discs online or something? My GAWD!! (end sarcasm) __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-21-2004, 10:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	Hey, I have a right to my back-up. Besides, don't these people realise that whatever move they make to copy protect shit, some nerd smewhere finds a way to counteract it and then spreads it on the net. Pricks. If they don't want me making copies of my music then they should provide free CD replacements for when the shitty 1980s throwbacks get too damaged, but NO I have to buy the same fucking CD a billion times now don't I? __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

11-21-2004, 11:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	When I buy a television and it wears out after a year or two, I don't expect the manufacturer to send me a new one. Nor when I buy a book that I read over and over again do I expect the publisher to send me a new copy when the pages get worn. I understand the whole "fair use" argument, and agree with it for the most part, but the argument that cd's get worn over time isn't a valid one IMO. Now when it comes to making digital copies of your music so that you can use it in MP3 playes and the like, fine, that's a good argument, but IMHO the need to backup your discs isn't a good enough reason. BTW: My original response was intended to be humorous __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-21-2004, 11:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	Well, I have an mp3 player built into my phone (which is why i bought the phone in the firstplace), which was £80, and an mp3 player in my car, which was £140, plus the fact that books and TVs last much longer unless you spill something on them. My dad has books that are still in good condition since the 60s, and one's he's gotten a lot of use out of too. TVs will last a good 5-10 years under heavy use. EDIT: Peace Sells is ripping away as I type. Another triumph of the nerds over corporate assholes! __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

11-22-2004, 12:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	Well, I see your point as for the MP3 devices, but I have cds that are at least 6 years old, and they still play just fine. Talking about the fragility of a disc isn't IMO a plausible argument either. What do you do when you want something to last a long time, you treat it with care. Books on the other hand, I have many books that last MAYBE two years. I read alot of the same books over and over again. Hell, I'm on something like my fifth copy of a TNG novel "A rock and a hard place", and I don't complain. As for TV's well, just an example, but I'm willing to bet taht not everyone has the same luck with the lifespan/ Not to mention the fact that you can pay anywhere from 150, well into thousands of dollars for a tv, a cd costs what? Like 30 bucks? __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-22-2004, 12:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	£10. I do treat CDs with care, I NEVER leave them outside the case or player, yet they still manage to scratch themselves. I have old CDs that still play, but only because I never use them. All my favourite Metallica CDs are totally fucked though, and they are my prized possesions, though incidentally, I would not be opposed to re-purchasing those CDs in particular. __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

11-22-2004, 12:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	maybe I should pour hot butter on them to stop them from scratching themselves __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

11-22-2004, 12:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	It doesn't work man.... just burns and burns and burns.... __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

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