RIAA Hit List

Arik · 07-24-2003, 12:57 AM

Glad to see I didn't make it. Of course, I don't illegally trade music, but you never know how the RIAA is going to screw up.

http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/story/0...3484600,00.html

Brikar · 07-24-2003, 01:38 AM

The RIAA can suck my ass. OOOooh, OOOOOh, we make a fucking bajillion dollars instead of 1.5 bajillion dollars, and that's "illegal"

FUCK YOU. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The file-sharing argument has NEVER been about legality or any of that, it's always been about greed and absolutely NOTHING else. These people refuse to see teh future because all they care about is their fucking wallets.

Cujo · 07-24-2003, 01:53 AM

Preach on brotha Brikar!

iamspenagain · 07-24-2003, 02:24 AM

Question: If you own a particular album, then you decide to download a song from that particular album, is that illegal? Doubtful, since it would not be illegal to copy the music from the album to your computer. Downloading the song would simply be a shortcut.

If it's indeed legal to do as I have mentioned above, does the music industry in fact have the probably cause needed to issue a subpoena?

In other words, I'm questioning the legality of aforementioned subpoenas, and the legality of the government's decision to allow the record companies to issue subpoenas without first consulting a judge.

Arik · 07-24-2003, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Question: If you own a particular album, then you decide to download a song from that particular album, is that illegal?

Not technically, but I don't think it's been challanged in court.

A much more interesting question would be if you own an analog copy of an album (a record, let's say), does fair use entitle you to a digital copy of that album?

The other point to the question involves the new fad in copy-protecting CDs/DVDs. If it's encrypted in any way, you do not have the right to unencrypt it to make a back-up copy, fair use be damned. Under the DMCA, it is illegal to circumvent copy-protection in any way, without the concent of those who enacted the copy-protection. So, if any of those discs are copy-protected, no you do not have the right to download it.

Also, there is a bill before (I believe) the US House of Representatives to make it a felony to use P2P programs. And it's no big suprise to discover that the bill was introduced by Howard Berman, of California.

(For those not in the know, besides up to 5 years in prison and/or a max fine of $250,000, a felony conviction in the US means the person cannot vote, own a firearm, join in military, etc. All for uploading a single file. God I hope this doesn't pass.)

iamspenagain · 07-24-2003, 03:20 AM

So what you're saying is, if I "steal" a single song, I'll get a higher penalty than if I physically shoplift an entire album from Media Play?

Wow, that makes sense.

Filesharing programs aren't necessarily used for illegal activities, either. And what of the grandfather clause? If I own Kazaa now, and still own it after this bill is passed, they can't do jack shit to me, can they?

The Lensman · 07-24-2003, 09:03 AM

I'm all for fucking the RIAA over in anyway, short of outright murder. Hack those mother fuckers, vandalise those mother fuckers, kick the shit out of some of them. You cannot, and WILL NOT stop progress. Try it and pay.

Cymro · 07-24-2003, 09:51 AM

[rant]

Sigh...I may not be affected legally by this type of action, but without the US citizens contibuting, Flesharing will be fucking useless.

How the fuck could a govenment consider passing a bill so radical without first considering how the population may feel about it?

For me, Filesharing is either a way of watching TV episodes that I couldn't ordinarily watch, downloading specialist Software that is normally far too expensive for any amateur to consider buying, and a way of both getting back-ups of CDs I already have (I had to make a new copy of Nevermind and In Utero the other day because my old ones had been scratched so much), and deciding which CDs I am going to buy i.e. I don't have the time or patience to download every track off an album anyway, so I'll download what I can, see if I like what's on it, and if I do, I'll buy it. It's the record company's fault if their product is not of a high enough quality for me to consider buying, filesharing networks are just their scapegoat for decreasing sales that can be blamed on both their over-pricing (Some new Albums I see nowadays are £15!!!!!) and them favouring disposable pop acts over acts that can consitently deliver music of a high standard over a long period of time, instead of the usual 3 good tracks (and by good I mean catchy) on a 15 track album. It is not right that I feel more satisfied by listening to a 5 track EP by an unsigned band that I have listened to countless times than I am by listening to a new LP by one of the biggest bands in the world.

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Cymro · 07-24-2003, 09:54 AM

Quote:

So what you're saying is, if I "steal" a single song, I'll get a higher penalty than if I physically shoplift an entire album from Media Play?

Wow, that makes sense.

Filesharing programs aren't necessarily used for illegal activities, either. And what of the grandfather clause? If I own Kazaa now, and still own it after this bill is passed, they can't do jack shit to me, can they?

Sounds like a reason to shoplift to me

Sirgets · 07-24-2003, 11:46 AM

I wonder what Canada will do about all this? " We will not fight in Iraq but we will stand up to our own kids to stop the hardships that they are causing on our under paid musicians" FUCK the RIAA

07-24-2003, 12:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
Arik Astro-Monkey Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Here, dumbfuck! Posts: 2,304	Glad to see I didn't make it. Of course, I don't illegally trade music, but you never know how the RIAA is going to screw up. http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/story/0...3484600,00.html __________________ The writers of this post apologize for you being too stupid to understand it.

07-24-2003, 01:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	The RIAA can suck my ass. OOOooh, OOOOOh, we make a fucking bajillion dollars instead of 1.5 bajillion dollars, and that's "illegal" FUCK YOU. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The file-sharing argument has NEVER been about legality or any of that, it's always been about greed and absolutely NOTHING else. These people refuse to see teh future because all they care about is their fucking wallets. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

07-24-2003, 01:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cujo Lover AND a Fighter Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 758	Preach on brotha Brikar! __________________

07-24-2003, 02:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
iamspenagain Cymro's Bitch Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: The Nast 'Nati, Ohio Posts: 496	Question: If you own a particular album, then you decide to download a song from that particular album, is that illegal? Doubtful, since it would not be illegal to copy the music from the album to your computer. Downloading the song would simply be a shortcut. If it's indeed legal to do as I have mentioned above, does the music industry in fact have the probably cause needed to issue a subpoena? In other words, I'm questioning the legality of aforementioned subpoenas, and the legality of the government's decision to allow the record companies to issue subpoenas without first consulting a judge. __________________ If I could, I would marry a Magnum bar.

07-24-2003, 03:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
iamspenagain Cymro's Bitch Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: The Nast 'Nati, Ohio Posts: 496	So what you're saying is, if I "steal" a single song, I'll get a higher penalty than if I physically shoplift an entire album from Media Play? Wow, that makes sense. Filesharing programs aren't necessarily used for illegal activities, either. And what of the grandfather clause? If I own Kazaa now, and still own it after this bill is passed, they can't do jack shit to me, can they? __________________ If I could, I would marry a Magnum bar.

07-24-2003, 09:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
The Lensman The Original Patron Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way Posts: 269	I'm all for fucking the RIAA over in anyway, short of outright murder. Hack those mother fuckers, vandalise those mother fuckers, kick the shit out of some of them. You cannot, and WILL NOT stop progress. Try it and pay. __________________ Everyone Booze Up And Riot!!! Milk and Cheese

07-24-2003, 09:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	[rant] Sigh...I may not be affected legally by this type of action, but without the US citizens contibuting, Flesharing will be fucking useless. How the fuck could a govenment consider passing a bill so radical without first considering how the population may feel about it? For me, Filesharing is either a way of watching TV episodes that I couldn't ordinarily watch, downloading specialist Software that is normally far too expensive for any amateur to consider buying, and a way of both getting back-ups of CDs I already have (I had to make a new copy of Nevermind and In Utero the other day because my old ones had been scratched so much), and deciding which CDs I am going to buy i.e. I don't have the time or patience to download every track off an album anyway, so I'll download what I can, see if I like what's on it, and if I do, I'll buy it. It's the record company's fault if their product is not of a high enough quality for me to consider buying, filesharing networks are just their scapegoat for decreasing sales that can be blamed on both their over-pricing (Some new Albums I see nowadays are £15!!!!!) and them favouring disposable pop acts over acts that can consitently deliver music of a high standard over a long period of time, instead of the usual 3 good tracks (and by good I mean catchy) on a 15 track album. It is not right that I feel more satisfied by listening to a 5 track EP by an unsigned band that I have listened to countless times than I am by listening to a new LP by one of the biggest bands in the world. [/rant] __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

07-24-2003, 11:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
Sirgets AKA SIRGETS Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: CANADA EH! Posts: 1,118	I wonder what Canada will do about all this? " We will not fight in Iraq but we will stand up to our own kids to stop the hardships that they are causing on our under paid musicians" FUCK the RIAA __________________ Abandoning your fears is your first step on the road to enlightenment, and giving Stag a blowjob----cymro

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