The Forge-The Kirshara

Cymro · 05-07-2005, 03:54 PM

What a crappy bunch of episodes, I mean, I like how they've been trying to explain why the Vulcans from the 22nd century are so different from the ones in the 23rd century, and in that respect they've been kinda cool, but my only problem is that all the vulcans were MORE emotional than the humans or the Andorians. yet still spoke very formally. And the worst part of it all was that it took so long for any of those reluctant looking council members took so log to do anything about that Romulan guy.

Brikar · 05-07-2005, 06:12 PM

I liked the stuff with Shran and Soval, and Soval's going against the Council and all that. But I hated the stuff with Archer being the savior of Vulcan. Blech. If they were gonna do it, they should have done T'Pol. But the show had to force Archer to be the hero once again, no matter how ridiculous it was.

Cymro · 05-08-2005, 02:45 AM

Yeah, I liked the fact that they've shown that Soval was not a total prick as he was portrayed earlier on, it was the first time we saw him as more than a 2 dimentional character, and Shran always rocks, but it was mainly the Vulcans that bothered me. Maybe the fact that I knew coming in that V'Las was a Romulan added to it, but it was blatantly obvious that he wasn't a rational, logical, emotionless vulcan, and it was just plain insulting that they expected us to believe that no-one was suspicious of him. T'Pol definately should have been the center of these episodes. I also thought throughout the episodes that every vulcan (including the syranites) was acting awfully human for a people who pride themselves in how computer-like they are. Lots of shouting at eachother, killing eachother (what kind of logical vulcan would think it was ok to wipe out the members of a cult who have no defences?) and overall humanity, hell T'Pau was smiling at Archer when she was letting him know about the brilliant new reforms on Vulcan. Overall, a grade A example of what should have been a good 3 parter being almost the complete oposite.

05-07-2005, 03:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	The Forge-The Kirshara What a crappy bunch of episodes, I mean, I like how they've been trying to explain why the Vulcans from the 22nd century are so different from the ones in the 23rd century, and in that respect they've been kinda cool, but my only problem is that all the vulcans were MORE emotional than the humans or the Andorians. yet still spoke very formally. And the worst part of it all was that it took so long for any of those reluctant looking council members took so log to do anything about that Romulan guy. __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

05-07-2005, 06:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	I liked the stuff with Shran and Soval, and Soval's going against the Council and all that. But I hated the stuff with Archer being the savior of Vulcan. Blech. If they were gonna do it, they should have done T'Pol. But the show had to force Archer to be the hero once again, no matter how ridiculous it was. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

05-08-2005, 02:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	Yeah, I liked the fact that they've shown that Soval was not a total prick as he was portrayed earlier on, it was the first time we saw him as more than a 2 dimentional character, and Shran always rocks, but it was mainly the Vulcans that bothered me. Maybe the fact that I knew coming in that V'Las was a Romulan added to it, but it was blatantly obvious that he wasn't a rational, logical, emotionless vulcan, and it was just plain insulting that they expected us to believe that no-one was suspicious of him. T'Pol definately should have been the center of these episodes. I also thought throughout the episodes that every vulcan (including the syranites) was acting awfully human for a people who pride themselves in how computer-like they are. Lots of shouting at eachother, killing eachother (what kind of logical vulcan would think it was ok to wipe out the members of a cult who have no defences?) and overall humanity, hell T'Pau was smiling at Archer when she was letting him know about the brilliant new reforms on Vulcan. Overall, a grade A example of what should have been a good 3 parter being almost the complete oposite. __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode