"The Incredible Hulk" trailer

Brikar · 03-14-2008, 05:55 PM

http://media.movies.ign.com/media/56...36/vids_1.html

The CG doesn't even look as good as the last one.

iamspenagain · 03-14-2008, 06:26 PM

I hate the film industry's heavy reliance on CGI. Too much CGI makes a movie look like absolute ass. I just don't understand why filmmakers don't use models anymore. Judging by the skyrocketing budgets of summer blockbusters over the past ten years or so, models are cheaper, and they certainly take less time.

I think filmmakers are just too lazy to be creative anymore.

Bean · 03-14-2008, 06:38 PM

I think it was a really good trailer, but I agree with the CGI comments. Especially CGI vs models. One of my biggest complaints about Trek was that they traded in models (which were always excellently done) for CGI. Sure that meant we got massive fleets like in DS9, but the ships always looked just a bit off. Whereas the models always had a look of realism to them, that CGI has yet to match.

iamspenagain · 03-14-2008, 08:58 PM

The closest to realism I've ever seen a computer graphic get was Cymro's keyboard. More complex things, especially people and animals, will never get there, I fear.

Brikar · 03-14-2008, 11:37 PM

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Bean stopped drinking long enough to mumble

I think it was a really good trailer, but I agree with the CGI comments. Especially CGI vs models. One of my biggest complaints about Trek was that they traded in models (which were always excellently done) for CGI. Sure that meant we got massive fleets like in DS9, but the ships always looked just a bit off. Whereas the models always had a look of realism to them, that CGI has yet to match.

It's all about lighting and motion, just like with model work. Bad lighting and compositing will kill a model shot just as it will a CG shot. CG is much quicker than model work, and as a result, easier to rush and screw up.

Bean · 03-15-2008, 12:47 AM

Well honestly, I have yet to see CG work that I find on par with model work. The best CG I've seen is in the Final Fantasy movies, or LOTR. But both of those movies took years to complete, so I'm not hopeful that Trek or any other "mass produced" entertainment is going to hop on board anytime soon.

Even Gabe's Enterprise D in TATV stood out as slightly off from the model shots in TNG. It just didn't seem "right". I'm not sure how to explain it. It was beautiful to be sure, but just not right.

Brikar · 03-15-2008, 01:21 AM

I found the LOTR CG to be rather dodgy, personally. A lot of obvious green-screen work and sub-par character animation. But I give it a pass because there's literally so much going on in those three movies.

I think a lot of people have trouble with CG because the brain KNOWS it's fake, no matter how real it looks. A model has a certain different quality to it that the mind can accept easier because it's still a "real" object, just one that's trying to trick you.

Cymro · 03-15-2008, 01:36 AM

*aHem* Davy Jones

Closet Racist · 03-15-2008, 01:49 AM

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Captain James T.Bandwagon stopped drinking long enough to mumble

*aHem* Davy Jones

Of the PIRATE movies or The Monkees, LOL...

Brikar · 03-15-2008, 02:51 AM

I only saw the first one...

03-14-2008, 05:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	"The Incredible Hulk" trailer http://media.movies.ign.com/media/56...36/vids_1.html The CG doesn't even look as good as the last one. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

03-14-2008, 06:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
iamspenagain Cymro's Bitch Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: The Nast 'Nati, Ohio Posts: 497	Re: "The Incredible Hulk" trailer I hate the film industry's heavy reliance on CGI. Too much CGI makes a movie look like absolute ass. I just don't understand why filmmakers don't use models anymore. Judging by the skyrocketing budgets of summer blockbusters over the past ten years or so, models are cheaper, and they certainly take less time. I think filmmakers are just too lazy to be creative anymore. __________________ If I could, I would marry a Magnum bar.

03-14-2008, 06:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	Re: "The Incredible Hulk" trailer I think it was a really good trailer, but I agree with the CGI comments. Especially CGI vs models. One of my biggest complaints about Trek was that they traded in models (which were always excellently done) for CGI. Sure that meant we got massive fleets like in DS9, but the ships always looked just a bit off. Whereas the models always had a look of realism to them, that CGI has yet to match. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

03-14-2008, 08:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
iamspenagain Cymro's Bitch Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: The Nast 'Nati, Ohio Posts: 497	Re: "The Incredible Hulk" trailer The closest to realism I've ever seen a computer graphic get was Cymro's keyboard. More complex things, especially people and animals, will never get there, I fear. __________________ If I could, I would marry a Magnum bar.

03-15-2008, 12:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	Re: "The Incredible Hulk" trailer Well honestly, I have yet to see CG work that I find on par with model work. The best CG I've seen is in the Final Fantasy movies, or LOTR. But both of those movies took years to complete, so I'm not hopeful that Trek or any other "mass produced" entertainment is going to hop on board anytime soon. Even Gabe's Enterprise D in TATV stood out as slightly off from the model shots in TNG. It just didn't seem "right". I'm not sure how to explain it. It was beautiful to be sure, but just not right. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

03-15-2008, 01:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606 View Edit History:	Re: "The Incredible Hulk" trailer I found the LOTR CG to be rather dodgy, personally. A lot of obvious green-screen work and sub-par character animation. But I give it a pass because there's literally so much going on in those three movies. I think a lot of people have trouble with CG because the brain KNOWS it's fake, no matter how real it looks. A model has a certain different quality to it that the mind can accept easier because it's still a "real" object, just one that's trying to trick you. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

03-15-2008, 01:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	Re: "The Incredible Hulk" trailer aHem Davy Jones __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

03-15-2008, 02:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	Re: "The Incredible Hulk" trailer I only saw the first one... __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

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