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| The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts
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![]() | The Ron Jones Project is a 14-disc (!!!) collection of Ron Jones' scores for 42 episodes of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Seasons 1-4. The first disc features the scores for "The Naked Now," "Where No One Has Gone Before" and "Lonely Among Us." What's fascinating about these scores is how uniquely TNG they sound... and yet also harken strongly back to the music of TOS. "The Naked Now" in particular sounds like it could be ripped from an episode of TOS, save for a lot of the electronics involved. "Where No One Has Gone Before" has a lot of references to Jerry Goldsmith's work in "The Motion Picture," which gives it a pretty epic, cinematic feel. "Lonely Among Us" feels more TOS again, but also darker and a bit scarier. I was worried that music from 1987 would feel really cheesy, and I knew that the earlier TNG scores had a good deal of synthesizer work going on, but what's interesting is that it all actually meshes really well. Yes, this is obviously music from the 1980s, but it's good music. Speaking of good music, Jones mentions in the (extensive) liner notes available online at FSM: Star Trek: The Next Generation (Ron Jones) that he and Dennis McCarthy clashed right from the get-go with Rick Berman. Jones and McCarthy were getting congratulations left and right from people working with them on the quality of their scores, save for Berman, who insisted that the music should be more like wallpaper than fancy art. This passage is particularly troubling: Quote:
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| The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts
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![]() | Yes it does.
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| Religious Fanatic | Criticism of Berman may be overdone but it is still very much deserved. The man is an idiot.
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| The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts
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![]() | It does often seem that the modern "Star Trek" shows (mostly) succeeded in spite of him rather than because of him.
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| The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts
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![]() | I spent some more time listening to the first disc this morning. The unused cues from "The Naked Now" that Jones refers to are track 5, "No Control / Needing Love" and track 7 "Infection in Control / Running Out of Time / Horny Doctor". Both are actually quite good, even highlights of the episode. "Horny Doctor" in particular is nice in that it starts out mostly on piano and then introduces some swelling strings toward the end. The action cues like "Exploding Star" and "Our Only Hope" are the other highlights because Jones uses pretty much everything at his disposal, with driving rhythms and low brass to represent the danger, and even heroic reprisals of the 'Star Trek' fanfare at appropriate moments. "Where No One has Gone Before" is even better, and sounds pretty much like if Jerry Goldsmith had scored the episode, with a lot of adaptations of the TMP/TNG theme to score the action as the ship is warped a billion light years away. The highlights are definitely the action cues such as track 12 "The Test / Double Warp / Long Way From Home" and 19 "Center Your Thoughts". But there's also some great material in 15 "Billion Light Years Away", which starts out with a very Goldsmith-esque piece that sounds very reminiscent of the Enterprise's journey through V'Ger before giving way to a more 80s sounding electronic underscore piece. Track 16 is also two source pieces by Mozart that are short and fun. "Lonely Among Us" features some more moody work rather than action pieces that dominate the first two episodes. Some of it is quite good, and the melodies Jones creates in "Not Herself" would be used again quite a bit, and are prominent in the score for "The Best of Both Worlds". With only about 30 players, the scores have a tendency to sound a bit thin compared to the 90-100 player orchestras used in the movies, but it's not that big of a deal. Especially in "Where No One Has Gone Before," which is probably my favorite of the three scores on this disc because of its uses of the shows and movie themes to drive the action.
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| Forgot to bring booze... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The bush, Canada
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[Warning, the following paragraph is me ranting about planting and is not ultimately necessary to this post] Basically, I ignored my boss' instructions to get the treeplanters to finish late, for no reasons, as we were a week away of finishing a gigantic cutblock, on the last day of a difficult work shift. This would have caused the planters to show up in town for night off at about 9pm, with not much time to actually relax or do stuff (like eating and cleaning a week of filth off their body) before partying and then going back to camp in the afternoon the next day. Which meant everything a planter needs a town for once a week (sleep in a real bed, do laundry, communicate with friends and family, pay bills, buy or restock supplies, entertainment, and chilling, among others) would have been packed on that little time period, while hungover. [Rant over] If this actually happened, Behr and Moore noticed that if your work is stellar and your judgment has been proven, there's nothing the boss can do when he eventually realizes it. In that case, stories unfolded by then on DS9 couldn't be redone or erased, and the show worked well enough that Berman just let it go, staying away from the rebels, to their, I'm assume, great satisfaction.
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| The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts
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![]() | I've heard numerous stories that while Berman was somewhat less involved with DS9, it was also a constant struggle with him to do things they wanted. Berman, for example, wanted the Dominion War to end entirely after six episodes. I also recall a story being told where after they had decided to blow off Nog's legs, they got into a lengthy argument with Berman over exactly how wounded Nog should be. I forget if it was Behr or Moore that was being interviewed (I think Moore) where he said it basically came down to them negotiating back and forth between two legs, one leg, part of one leg, one leg above the knee and finally settling on one leg below the knee.
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| Man-whore Join Date: Jun 2006
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