Okuda on HD TNG

Arik · 11-21-2011, 06:47 PM

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To remedy the situation, CBS is painstakingly rescanning the original film negatives and reassembling the episodes in high definition. We’re frankly amazed at the amount of work it takes to do this, but we think the results are well worth it.

The studio is also biting the bullet and rebuilding all of the show’s visual effects, using the original film elements wherever possible. We’re proud to be working with CBS on this project, helping to preserve the artistry of the original production designers, cinematographers, visual effects creators, and everyone else who worked so hard on that show.

Can't wait.

Brikar · 11-21-2011, 06:55 PM

Apparently some of the original film negatives can't be found. At the moment, it's a relatively minor 13-second section of one episode that's been announced. That footage will be up-rezzed from SD video masters. Hopefully it won't be a regular occurrence.

Cymro · 11-21-2011, 07:49 PM

I had a feeling something like that would happen. Am I right in thinking they need to sort through individual takes of each scene?

Bean · 11-21-2011, 10:24 PM

"Rebuilding all of the show's visual effects"

Would someone a little more technically apt explain this to me. Does that mean replacing all the effects with newer ones ala TOS remastered?

Cymro · 11-21-2011, 11:30 PM

Not quite. For TOS, they had to re-do all the shots of the Enterprise etc. in CGI because the blue-screen technology of the time was rather primitive and would look shit in HD, and the film was pretty badly degraded, again mostly due to the technical limitations of the time.

When they made TNG, blue screen technology had improved immensely, as had the methods for preserving film. The only problem is that the compositing was done on low-res videotape. This means that they have a load of good, clean footage of the Enterprise-D model, and all the various alien ships etcetera, but the footage would be just the Enterprise on it's own with a blue screen behind it. So they'll be using these shots and mixing in other film footage of, say Romulan Warbirds, and phaser beams and so on to recreate the original effects, but this time it'll be done digitally in high resolution.

Bean · 11-22-2011, 02:23 AM

So we'll still have the same model shots, but with new phasers and such? That would be fine with me btw.

Cymro · 11-22-2011, 02:55 AM

Pretty much, but obviously the model shots will look a fuckload better in HD, and I imagine the phasers and such will be redone.

iamspenagain · 11-22-2011, 03:20 AM

The Enterprise model shots will likely look fantastic, and so, too, will the Warbirds and the Birds of Prey, but the one-off and stock models will probably look terrible and will likely have to be redone digitally. Let's face it, most of those looked pretty dull even in standard def.

Brikar · 11-22-2011, 05:11 AM

The only thing being redone digitally is stuff like phaser beams, images of planets in orbit (those were done digitally to begin with). Otherwise all the original model work is intact.

Closet Racist · 11-22-2011, 09:17 AM

Would it be too much to ask for them to correct the issue of the three sizes of Klingon "Birds of Prey"?

11-21-2011, 06:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,585	Re: Okuda on HD TNG Apparently some of the original film negatives can't be found. At the moment, it's a relatively minor 13-second section of one episode that's been announced. That footage will be up-rezzed from SD video masters. Hopefully it won't be a regular occurrence. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

11-21-2011, 07:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,912	Re: Okuda on HD TNG I had a feeling something like that would happen. Am I right in thinking they need to sort through individual takes of each scene? __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

11-21-2011, 10:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,036	Re: Okuda on HD TNG "Rebuilding all of the show's visual effects" Would someone a little more technically apt explain this to me. Does that mean replacing all the effects with newer ones ala TOS remastered? __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-21-2011, 11:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,912 View Edit History:	Re: Okuda on HD TNG Not quite. For TOS, they had to re-do all the shots of the Enterprise etc. in CGI because the blue-screen technology of the time was rather primitive and would look shit in HD, and the film was pretty badly degraded, again mostly due to the technical limitations of the time. When they made TNG, blue screen technology had improved immensely, as had the methods for preserving film. The only problem is that the compositing was done on low-res videotape. This means that they have a load of good, clean footage of the Enterprise-D model, and all the various alien ships etcetera, but the footage would be just the Enterprise on it's own with a blue screen behind it. So they'll be using these shots and mixing in other film footage of, say Romulan Warbirds, and phaser beams and so on to recreate the original effects, but this time it'll be done digitally in high resolution. __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

11-22-2011, 02:23 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,036	Re: Okuda on HD TNG So we'll still have the same model shots, but with new phasers and such? That would be fine with me btw. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-22-2011, 02:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,912	Re: Okuda on HD TNG Pretty much, but obviously the model shots will look a fuckload better in HD, and I imagine the phasers and such will be redone. __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

11-22-2011, 03:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
iamspenagain Cymro's Bitch Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: The Nast 'Nati, Ohio Posts: 494	Re: Okuda on HD TNG The Enterprise model shots will likely look fantastic, and so, too, will the Warbirds and the Birds of Prey, but the one-off and stock models will probably look terrible and will likely have to be redone digitally. Let's face it, most of those looked pretty dull even in standard def. __________________ If I could, I would marry a Magnum bar.

11-22-2011, 05:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,585	Re: Okuda on HD TNG The only thing being redone digitally is stuff like phaser beams, images of planets in orbit (those were done digitally to begin with). Otherwise all the original model work is intact. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

11-22-2011, 09:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
Closet Racist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: With a side of fava beans and a nice chianti... Posts: 1,202	Re: Okuda on HD TNG Would it be too much to ask for them to correct the issue of the three sizes of Klingon "Birds of Prey"? __________________

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