Twilight

Bean · 11-06-2003, 12:42 AM

I just finished watching the latest Enterprise episode, and I have to say, it was good. Although rather predictable after the first ten minutes, it was still very enjoyable. I wasn't really expecting too much, as I hadn't read any spoilers or such and didn't even know the synopsis, but the first scene before the intro hooked me instantly.

I won't spoil it for anyone else, but suffice it to say BOOM!!!!!

If you haven't seen it yet, it's worth the download.

Cujo · 11-06-2003, 02:12 AM

Ok... I just got one nitpick, which is a very minor spoiler so be warned...

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Why didn't Archer keep a fucking log? Seriously... if I knew I would keep forgetting the the previous day's (hours) events, I would want to write down what I did that day. But ya know what else bugs me? Another spoiler warning....

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I don't like that Archer is basically gonna be the savior of mankind. It just bugs me.

Bean · 11-06-2003, 02:24 AM

The ep doesn't exactly mean that Archer is gonna be the saviour of all mankind, just that T'pol made a choice Archer wouldn't have.

The log thing bugged me too, I thought about all the way through the show.

The Lensman · 11-06-2003, 03:30 AM

Twilight rocked! Lot's of nods to ST in it. I like how the graphics on the future NX-01 were closer to ST's. Great stuff. FX were excellent as always. Story was pretty cool in a "Yesterday's Enterprise" kinda way.

Brikar · 11-06-2003, 07:12 AM

I'd say the story was cool more in a VOY's "Timeless" sort of way, rather than TNG's "Yesterday's Enterprise".

But excellent effects, as always.

And, as always, Scorned is already ripping it apart on a simplistic, basic level over on TW that implies that he barely even bothered to think about the episode at all while he was watching it, other than to grunt and say, "I wish I didn't have such a small penis."

Bean · 11-06-2003, 12:28 PM

LOL!!

I know that in the past, people have given B&B alot of flack over the "reset button" episodes, but this one somehow was different. Maybe it was all the cool effects, maybe it was our chance to see a worst case scenario, but somehow this ep was done really well.

Cujo pointed out one major nitpick that I thought of as well, but even with that glaringly obvious whole in common sense, I still loved the episode. I can't believe they pulled it off and it didn't come off as cheap, which it could have easily been.

I've also noticed with the rest of the episodes in season 3 that they're starting to cater to fanboy interests. Even in this episoode, the inclusion of another Starfleet vessel, along with an entire convoy of Earth ships. It seems like they're at least trying to regain the core audience to some degree, and although the changes aren't 100%, I'm pleased that they're at least trying.

Arik · 11-06-2003, 01:46 PM

RE: Cujo's #1 nit.

Because if he did, he'd be copying what Chakotay did at the end of that forgetable Voyager episode Unforgettable. And we can't have Enterprise copying other Star Treks, can we?

Actually, with all the positive comments about this episode, I'm actually going to make an effort to watch it when it aires. :huh:

Cujo · 11-06-2003, 01:54 PM

Anyone else notice that the human colony was on Ceti Alpha 5? Nod to the TOS there.

Cymro · 11-06-2003, 07:32 PM

I feel re

Cymro · 11-06-2003, 07:39 PM

I feel really stale cause I still think enterprise is crap...

I've always felt that criticism of episodes for being "Reset Button" episodes is a little stupid, especially since most of Trek (good and bad) 'sodes don't really effect any future ones anyway, other than maybe an odd reference. And of course there are episodes like Yesterday's Enterprise, a long time favourite which was at first, a reset button ep.

11-06-2003, 12:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	I just finished watching the latest Enterprise episode, and I have to say, it was good. Although rather predictable after the first ten minutes, it was still very enjoyable. I wasn't really expecting too much, as I hadn't read any spoilers or such and didn't even know the synopsis, but the first scene before the intro hooked me instantly. I won't spoil it for anyone else, but suffice it to say BOOM!!!!! If you haven't seen it yet, it's worth the download. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-06-2003, 02:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cujo Lover AND a Fighter Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 758	Ok... I just got one nitpick, which is a very minor spoiler so be warned... . Why didn't Archer keep a fucking log? Seriously... if I knew I would keep forgetting the the previous day's (hours) events, I would want to write down what I did that day. But ya know what else bugs me? Another spoiler warning.... . I don't like that Archer is basically gonna be the savior of mankind. It just bugs me. __________________

11-06-2003, 02:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	The ep doesn't exactly mean that Archer is gonna be the saviour of all mankind, just that T'pol made a choice Archer wouldn't have. The log thing bugged me too, I thought about all the way through the show. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-06-2003, 03:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
The Lensman The Original Patron Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way Posts: 269	Twilight rocked! Lot's of nods to ST in it. I like how the graphics on the future NX-01 were closer to ST's. Great stuff. FX were excellent as always. Story was pretty cool in a "Yesterday's Enterprise" kinda way. __________________ Everyone Booze Up And Riot!!! Milk and Cheese

11-06-2003, 07:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	I'd say the story was cool more in a VOY's "Timeless" sort of way, rather than TNG's "Yesterday's Enterprise". But excellent effects, as always. And, as always, Scorned is already ripping it apart on a simplistic, basic level over on TW that implies that he barely even bothered to think about the episode at all while he was watching it, other than to grunt and say, "I wish I didn't have such a small penis." __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

11-06-2003, 12:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	LOL!! I know that in the past, people have given B&B alot of flack over the "reset button" episodes, but this one somehow was different. Maybe it was all the cool effects, maybe it was our chance to see a worst case scenario, but somehow this ep was done really well. Cujo pointed out one major nitpick that I thought of as well, but even with that glaringly obvious whole in common sense, I still loved the episode. I can't believe they pulled it off and it didn't come off as cheap, which it could have easily been. I've also noticed with the rest of the episodes in season 3 that they're starting to cater to fanboy interests. Even in this episoode, the inclusion of another Starfleet vessel, along with an entire convoy of Earth ships. It seems like they're at least trying to regain the core audience to some degree, and although the changes aren't 100%, I'm pleased that they're at least trying. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-06-2003, 01:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Arik Astro-Monkey Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Here, dumbfuck! Posts: 2,304	RE: Cujo's #1 nit. Because if he did, he'd be copying what Chakotay did at the end of that forgetable Voyager episode Unforgettable. And we can't have Enterprise copying other Star Treks, can we? Actually, with all the positive comments about this episode, I'm actually going to make an effort to watch it when it aires. :huh: __________________ The writers of this post apologize for you being too stupid to understand it.

11-06-2003, 01:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cujo Lover AND a Fighter Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 758	Anyone else notice that the human colony was on Ceti Alpha 5? Nod to the TOS there. __________________

11-06-2003, 07:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	I feel re __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

11-06-2003, 07:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	I feel really stale cause I still think enterprise is crap... I've always felt that criticism of episodes for being "Reset Button" episodes is a little stupid, especially since most of Trek (good and bad) 'sodes don't really effect any future ones anyway, other than maybe an odd reference. And of course there are episodes like Yesterday's Enterprise, a long time favourite which was at first, a reset button ep. __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

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