Northstar

Bean · 11-14-2003, 05:39 AM

Well, I think my entire opinion of the episode can be summed up in one word:

MEH

Discuss.

Stag · 11-14-2003, 02:42 PM

I liked it

Cujo · 11-14-2003, 02:49 PM

Didn't even bother watching this one.

Brikar · 11-14-2003, 03:01 PM

I loved every minute of it. One of my favorite episodes of ENT yet.

Bean · 11-14-2003, 04:47 PM

Well, I don't think i was "Spock's Brain bad", I just wasn't interested in the plot at all. I had absoluleley no interest in seeing the ep o it's conclusion , but did so because I had no other complete doownloads ready for viiewing yet

Brikar · 11-14-2003, 05:28 PM

I was pulled into it immediately. We started out partway through the story, where the Enterprise crew has already found the planet, and they're already investigating the human settlement. I liked that, since it gave us a little more time to get into the story and the characters. If we had started out with the Enterprise first coming across them, and then deciding to go down, and start investigating - that's time wasted that I don't need to see since I will pretty much know that they decided to go down.

I liked how very little time was spent aboard the Enterprise. That's something ENT needs to do a bit more, give us a break from the same sets week after week.

Was the story a bit cliched? Sure, but that just didn't bother me, since ENT was finally doing something a bit different, a bit whacky that it hadn't tried before. I liked all of the actors this week, each of them was effective. The sheriff was well-done, as was the slimy deputy.

O.Deus was moaning and groaning that the episode was absurd, and he was wondering why the humans hadn't advanced in three hundred years using the alien technology. This is basically more of Deus not paying attention to an episode than then ragging on it. The humans destroyed and burned the alien ship and butchered the aliens. There wasn't any technology left to steal. So I have no problems believing that this was a society that hadn't advanced. They just wanted their lives back. So what did they do? They rebuilt their lives. The advancement of the west in America was forced on them because of the east. These people didn't have that.

So what we got was a story that actually had some meaning beyond the top layer. These humans were doing the exact same thing to the "Scags" that western/europeans had done to the africans and native americans, that the Scags had done to them, and they just didn't realize it. They needed our characters to teach them that.

Was this one of the best episodes of "Trek" ever? No. Was it a good one? Most certainly, I think. The ENT were quite well-done this week, especially Archer. I absolutely loved how his final fight with the slimy deputy was handled. The dialogue wasn't quite so hokey as it has been in the past. Archer's delivery when he asks the Scag for some coffee before he shoots the deputy was hilarious. Reed shooting T'Pol was fun, as well.

Bean · 11-14-2003, 06:24 PM

I do have to agree. It was well done, and probably a good episode. I just had a problem getting into it. The story didn't hold my interest. It was predictable in almost every way.

Two minutes into the show I knew that the morale issues would be sorted out by the end, I knew that the deputy would come to an untimely end, and I knew that the sherrif would turn out to be the reluctant good guy forced into a bad guy's role because of circumstance.

I'm not saying it was a bad episode, I just couldn't get into it no matter how hard I tried.

I do have to admit though that I laughed my ass off when Archer asked for more coffee from the Skag in the bar

Brikar · 11-14-2003, 06:37 PM

Yeah, the episode was moving through the typical western playlist, but it's like I've been saying about ENT all along - you can redo old stories as long as you redo them WELL, and that's what I think this episode did.

Sirgets · 11-17-2003, 12:13 PM

I loved it !!!!

11-14-2003, 05:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	Well, I think my entire opinion of the episode can be summed up in one word: MEH Discuss. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-14-2003, 02:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
Stag It's me again Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Florida Posts: 3,286	I liked it __________________ "I want to do a motorboat on Shatner's manboobs" - Sam Cogley

11-14-2003, 02:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cujo Lover AND a Fighter Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 758	Didn't even bother watching this one. __________________

11-14-2003, 03:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	I loved every minute of it. One of my favorite episodes of ENT yet. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

11-14-2003, 04:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	Well, I don't think i was "Spock's Brain bad", I just wasn't interested in the plot at all. I had absoluleley no interest in seeing the ep o it's conclusion , but did so because I had no other complete doownloads ready for viiewing yet __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-14-2003, 05:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	I was pulled into it immediately. We started out partway through the story, where the Enterprise crew has already found the planet, and they're already investigating the human settlement. I liked that, since it gave us a little more time to get into the story and the characters. If we had started out with the Enterprise first coming across them, and then deciding to go down, and start investigating - that's time wasted that I don't need to see since I will pretty much know that they decided to go down. I liked how very little time was spent aboard the Enterprise. That's something ENT needs to do a bit more, give us a break from the same sets week after week. Was the story a bit cliched? Sure, but that just didn't bother me, since ENT was finally doing something a bit different, a bit whacky that it hadn't tried before. I liked all of the actors this week, each of them was effective. The sheriff was well-done, as was the slimy deputy. O.Deus was moaning and groaning that the episode was absurd, and he was wondering why the humans hadn't advanced in three hundred years using the alien technology. This is basically more of Deus not paying attention to an episode than then ragging on it. The humans destroyed and burned the alien ship and butchered the aliens. There wasn't any technology left to steal. So I have no problems believing that this was a society that hadn't advanced. They just wanted their lives back. So what did they do? They rebuilt their lives. The advancement of the west in America was forced on them because of the east. These people didn't have that. So what we got was a story that actually had some meaning beyond the top layer. These humans were doing the exact same thing to the "Scags" that western/europeans had done to the africans and native americans, that the Scags had done to them, and they just didn't realize it. They needed our characters to teach them that. Was this one of the best episodes of "Trek" ever? No. Was it a good one? Most certainly, I think. The ENT were quite well-done this week, especially Archer. I absolutely loved how his final fight with the slimy deputy was handled. The dialogue wasn't quite so hokey as it has been in the past. Archer's delivery when he asks the Scag for some coffee before he shoots the deputy was hilarious. Reed shooting T'Pol was fun, as well. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

11-14-2003, 06:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	I do have to agree. It was well done, and probably a good episode. I just had a problem getting into it. The story didn't hold my interest. It was predictable in almost every way. Two minutes into the show I knew that the morale issues would be sorted out by the end, I knew that the deputy would come to an untimely end, and I knew that the sherrif would turn out to be the reluctant good guy forced into a bad guy's role because of circumstance. I'm not saying it was a bad episode, I just couldn't get into it no matter how hard I tried. I do have to admit though that I laughed my ass off when Archer asked for more coffee from the Skag in the bar __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

11-14-2003, 06:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	Yeah, the episode was moving through the typical western playlist, but it's like I've been saying about ENT all along - you can redo old stories as long as you redo them WELL, and that's what I think this episode did. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

11-17-2003, 12:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sirgets AKA SIRGETS Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: CANADA EH! Posts: 1,118	I loved it !!!! __________________ Abandoning your fears is your first step on the road to enlightenment, and giving Stag a blowjob----cymro

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