SG-1 S8 - "New Order"

Brikar · 07-12-2004, 12:47 PM

I wasn't terribly impressed. It was a good episode, to be sure, but it wasn't as explosive or "big" as I thought it should be, and it felt really unfocused to me.

For example, the Replicators are supposedly this huge threat, enough that Thor actually kidnaps Daniel to help them out. But we never SEE that threat, we never see what's going on down on the planet, so I never felt emotionally connected to what was going on there. We just got that one Asgard on the viewscreen.

And secondly, no one at the SGC seems worried that Thor kidnapped Daniel and ran off. That really bothered me. Weir just seemed to go on as normal after he was gone.

It was almost like they'd written two episodes, and then decided that they should be one episode, but didn't really spend much time making sure the two storylines worked together.

But it did have pluses - Jack was great, as usual. I loved when he inspected the weapon his mind created. "Yeah... Oh yeah, uh huh....... I got nothing." Great stuff.

Arik · 07-13-2004, 12:40 AM

Meh. I enjoyed it. Teal'c looks like a Chia pet (thanks, Richard Dean Anderson...)

Brikar · 07-13-2004, 12:48 AM

I enjoyed it, too, I was just hoping for more. Teal'c's hair is great. "Teal'c... what's with the hair?"

Cymro · 07-13-2004, 06:46 AM

Shit! I didn't realise it had aired!

Brikar · 07-13-2004, 10:27 AM

Stag · 07-13-2004, 12:16 PM

I liked it, by the way...the one thing that I find funny is that every time they want to show some sort of alternate universe or reality, they always give Carter long hair.

Cymro · 07-14-2004, 06:14 PM

I thought it was good, as SG-1 often is good, but not great. I personally love SG-1 because until about Season 7 they've managed to keep the quality up there with remarkable success, and season 7 wasn't so much bad, as lacking.

When I first heard that O'Neill was going to be the new base commander the first thing I thought after "Oh No, he isn't gonna be in SG-1 anymore!" was "How the HELL are they going to write him into accepting promotion believably???" and the way they did it worked really well, and more imprortantly, wasn't out of character.

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For example, the Replicators are supposedly this huge threat, enough that Thor actually kidnaps Daniel to help them out. But we never SEE that threat, we never see what's going on down on the planet, so I never felt emotionally connected to what was going on there. We just got that one Asgard on the viewscreen.

And secondly, no one at the SGC seems worried that Thor kidnapped Daniel and ran off. That really bothered me. Weir just seemed to go on as normal after he was gone.

He doesn't kidnap Daniel, he justs beams him up without asking, did Daniel mind? Of course not, it's the Asgard, it's THOR, it happens to them all the time. Remember when Jonas joined the team, they were making jokes that he should be excited because it was his first time being captured by the Gou'Auld. And when the Asgard are in orbit, and a member of SG-1 dissapears in a flash of light, I think it should be obvious by now that they're safe :P

As for visualising the destruction, I agree, but the fact still remains that I cared more about the Asgard planet than I did about Earth in season 3 of ENT!

Brikar · 07-14-2004, 09:18 PM

Kidnapping someone and taking them without asking are the same thing. Whether or not Daniel minded isn't the problem so much as no one at the SGC seemed to think much of it or even care, especially in the middle of what were some rather tense negotiations with Earth's primary enemy - The Goa'uld (however it's spelled).

Bean · 07-15-2004, 12:17 AM

Yes, but The asgaard have evolved beyond such petty trivialities such as rights and freedoms. They are an advanced culture that has earned the right to treat all other living things like second rate beings. They've contributed enough to the rest of the species they've encountered that they don't need to respect the same rules and freedoms they preach... wait a minute.. oh, sorry, I was thinking of the Bush administration.

Brikar · 07-15-2004, 12:37 AM

Perhaps I'm not making myself clear...

07-12-2004, 12:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	SG-1 S8 - "New Order" I wasn't terribly impressed. It was a good episode, to be sure, but it wasn't as explosive or "big" as I thought it should be, and it felt really unfocused to me. For example, the Replicators are supposedly this huge threat, enough that Thor actually kidnaps Daniel to help them out. But we never SEE that threat, we never see what's going on down on the planet, so I never felt emotionally connected to what was going on there. We just got that one Asgard on the viewscreen. And secondly, no one at the SGC seems worried that Thor kidnapped Daniel and ran off. That really bothered me. Weir just seemed to go on as normal after he was gone. It was almost like they'd written two episodes, and then decided that they should be one episode, but didn't really spend much time making sure the two storylines worked together. But it did have pluses - Jack was great, as usual. I loved when he inspected the weapon his mind created. "Yeah... Oh yeah, uh huh....... I got nothing." Great stuff. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

07-13-2004, 12:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
Arik Astro-Monkey Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Here, dumbfuck! Posts: 2,304	Meh. I enjoyed it. Teal'c looks like a Chia pet (thanks, Richard Dean Anderson...) __________________ The writers of this post apologize for you being too stupid to understand it.

07-13-2004, 12:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	I enjoyed it, too, I was just hoping for more. Teal'c's hair is great. "Teal'c... what's with the hair?" __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

07-13-2004, 06:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cymro Religious Fanatic Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Shitsville, CF63 Posts: 4,921	Shit! I didn't realise it had aired! __________________ "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty klingon."

07-13-2004, 10:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	lol __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

07-13-2004, 12:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
Stag It's me again Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Florida Posts: 3,286	I liked it, by the way...the one thing that I find funny is that every time they want to show some sort of alternate universe or reality, they always give Carter long hair. __________________ "I want to do a motorboat on Shatner's manboobs" - Sam Cogley

07-14-2004, 09:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	Kidnapping someone and taking them without asking are the same thing. Whether or not Daniel minded isn't the problem so much as no one at the SGC seemed to think much of it or even care, especially in the middle of what were some rather tense negotiations with Earth's primary enemy - The Goa'uld (however it's spelled). __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

07-15-2004, 12:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	Yes, but The asgaard have evolved beyond such petty trivialities such as rights and freedoms. They are an advanced culture that has earned the right to treat all other living things like second rate beings. They've contributed enough to the rest of the species they've encountered that they don't need to respect the same rules and freedoms they preach... wait a minute.. oh, sorry, I was thinking of the Bush administration. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

07-15-2004, 12:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	Perhaps I'm not making myself clear... __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

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