The pussiest fight scene in cinematic history?

Brikar · 08-07-2004, 12:38 PM

Brikar says yes.

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id...111&cf=trailer

Y'know, I was looking forward to "Alien vs Predator". In no way was I expecting a good movie, with interesting characters. No, I was gonna go for 2 hours of badassness. Even with the director of the uber-shitty "Resident Evil" at the helm, I said, "I can take it. It's 'Alien vs Predator'!" Even when the movie ended up being rated PG-13, which is a travesty of cinematic justice, I said, "Alright, so it isn't the humans that are going to get messily gutted on-screen."

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Then I saw this clip. Poor lighting. Boring choreography. Bad editing. The Predator looks... well, lame. It's hard to believe that this alien doesn't kick it's ass in three seconds flat. He moves like molasses, and looks like a big-budget Power Rangers villain. Where's the badassness? WHERE? Certainly not here. Up until now, Predator was the biggest badass to come out of the 1980s. Forget Freddy Krueger. Forget Jason Vorhees. Predator. The dude was cool to the bone - could see heat, made funky noises, took skulls and spines as fucking trophies! He MOVED like a hunter, a predator.

This... THING is nothing of the sort.

Granted, I seem to have gleamed all this from a single 1:01 clip. I may still see "Alien vs Predator". But my excitement is gone. And my blood-alcohol content will have to be significantly higher before going in.

Bean · 08-07-2004, 01:22 PM

I rather liked the clip, if for nothing more than the novelty of finally seeing a Predator take on an Alien. I agree though, it WAS rather lackluster. I'm not going to pass judgment on the entire film based on that one minute of film though.

Besides, within the context of the move, it may seem better.

Stag · 08-07-2004, 03:41 PM

The main problem is this... there is so little we know about the Predators from the 2 movies that the director had license to change them as he saw fit.

However, counterpoint...SPOILER, read on if you must
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The Predator's are young, they come to earth to batle aliens as a right of adulthood, this may explain it. Also, some of the Predators get injured defeating aliens so this may account for it.

Bean · 08-07-2004, 10:27 PM

There ya go, that's what I mean about within the context of the film. So the Predators are young and not as well trained as perhaps the first two we saw in the movies. They're not the battle hardened warriors that we know from the movies. This would seem to lend a bit of credibility to the fight scene.

Also, you have to remember that a really good action movie takes a bunch of mediocre action scenes such as this one and puts them together to make it seem like a faster more on the edge movie. If we hadn't had the oppourtunity to watch this clip before seeing the film, I'm sure it wouldn't have seemed as long as it did. Within the movie, that 1 minute of film probably speeds by rather quickly making it seem a little more credible.

Gitch · 08-08-2004, 01:43 AM

Ho hum...

As a fan of neither franchise, the clips just confirm how unlikely I am to see this at the cinema. I will probably only see it as a last resort, on a wet Staurday afternoon when all of the seats for Pokemon 25 are sold out and I have to wait over 4 hours for the next screening of Gigli 2.

Brikar · 08-08-2004, 12:44 PM

Well, now IGN is saying that the movie might be delayed into September because of problems they're running into. Both the press junket AND the premiere have been cancelled. Their article says that the movie just isn't finished yet, and is looking for an extra two weeks to debut in the first weekend of September. Cancelling the press junket means that reviewers don't get to see it. Hmmmmm...

I think it'd be hilarious if they decided to just throw the thing straight to video in time for Christmas, having gotten so close to a theatrical date. That probably won't happen, but it'd still be pretty damn funny.

Bean · 08-09-2004, 11:57 AM

I wonder ho much money they've lost on cancelling the premiere. I mean, they spend alot more money on advertising in the two or three weeks leading up to a movie, hence my not being able to turn the channel without hearing about the movie.

Stag · 08-09-2004, 11:59 AM

Saw a commercial this morning, in the US it is still opening this Friday

Brikar · 08-09-2004, 12:33 PM

It may still open this friday, the IGN article said "might". Besides, that commercial was likely cut several weeks ago.

Cujo · 08-12-2004, 02:54 PM

Check out the reviews at AICN... I'll wait til it hits video...

LINKAGE!

08-07-2004, 12:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	The pussiest fight scene in cinematic history? Brikar says yes. http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id...111&cf=trailer Y'know, I was looking forward to "Alien vs Predator". In no way was I expecting a good movie, with interesting characters. No, I was gonna go for 2 hours of badassness. Even with the director of the uber-shitty "Resident Evil" at the helm, I said, "I can take it. It's 'Alien vs Predator'!" Even when the movie ended up being rated PG-13, which is a travesty of cinematic justice, I said, "Alright, so it isn't the humans that are going to get messily gutted on-screen." ... Then I saw this clip. Poor lighting. Boring choreography. Bad editing. The Predator looks... well, lame. It's hard to believe that this alien doesn't kick it's ass in three seconds flat. He moves like molasses, and looks like a big-budget Power Rangers villain. Where's the badassness? WHERE? Certainly not here. Up until now, Predator was the biggest badass to come out of the 1980s. Forget Freddy Krueger. Forget Jason Vorhees. Predator. The dude was cool to the bone - could see heat, made funky noises, took skulls and spines as fucking trophies! He MOVED like a hunter, a predator. This... THING is nothing of the sort. Granted, I seem to have gleamed all this from a single 1:01 clip. I may still see "Alien vs Predator". But my excitement is gone. And my blood-alcohol content will have to be significantly higher before going in. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

08-07-2004, 01:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	I rather liked the clip, if for nothing more than the novelty of finally seeing a Predator take on an Alien. I agree though, it WAS rather lackluster. I'm not going to pass judgment on the entire film based on that one minute of film though. Besides, within the context of the move, it may seem better. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

08-07-2004, 03:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Stag It's me again Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Florida Posts: 3,286	The main problem is this... there is so little we know about the Predators from the 2 movies that the director had license to change them as he saw fit. However, counterpoint...SPOILER, read on if you must - - - - - - -- - - - - - - The Predator's are young, they come to earth to batle aliens as a right of adulthood, this may explain it. Also, some of the Predators get injured defeating aliens so this may account for it. __________________ "I want to do a motorboat on Shatner's manboobs" - Sam Cogley

08-07-2004, 10:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	There ya go, that's what I mean about within the context of the film. So the Predators are young and not as well trained as perhaps the first two we saw in the movies. They're not the battle hardened warriors that we know from the movies. This would seem to lend a bit of credibility to the fight scene. Also, you have to remember that a really good action movie takes a bunch of mediocre action scenes such as this one and puts them together to make it seem like a faster more on the edge movie. If we hadn't had the oppourtunity to watch this clip before seeing the film, I'm sure it wouldn't have seemed as long as it did. Within the movie, that 1 minute of film probably speeds by rather quickly making it seem a little more credible. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

08-08-2004, 01:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
Gitch Consultant Fellationist Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: God's own country merry England Posts: 435	Ho hum... As a fan of neither franchise, the clips just confirm how unlikely I am to see this at the cinema. I will probably only see it as a last resort, on a wet Staurday afternoon when all of the seats for Pokemon 25 are sold out and I have to wait over 4 hours for the next screening of Gigli 2. __________________ If masturbation is self-abuse - you are obviously doing it wrong.

08-08-2004, 12:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	Well, now IGN is saying that the movie might be delayed into September because of problems they're running into. Both the press junket AND the premiere have been cancelled. Their article says that the movie just isn't finished yet, and is looking for an extra two weeks to debut in the first weekend of September. Cancelling the press junket means that reviewers don't get to see it. Hmmmmm... I think it'd be hilarious if they decided to just throw the thing straight to video in time for Christmas, having gotten so close to a theatrical date. That probably won't happen, but it'd still be pretty damn funny. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

08-09-2004, 11:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bean The Awesome One Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 5,055	I wonder ho much money they've lost on cancelling the premiere. I mean, they spend alot more money on advertising in the two or three weeks leading up to a movie, hence my not being able to turn the channel without hearing about the movie. __________________ "I haven't faced death. I've cheated death. I've tricked my way out of death and patted myself on the back for my ingenuity. I know nothing." --James T. Kirk

08-09-2004, 11:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
Stag It's me again Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Florida Posts: 3,286	Saw a commercial this morning, in the US it is still opening this Friday __________________ "I want to do a motorboat on Shatner's manboobs" - Sam Cogley

08-09-2004, 12:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
Brikar The Dude Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,606	It may still open this friday, the IGN article said "might". Besides, that commercial was likely cut several weeks ago. __________________ "A million monkeys typing until the end of time will produce the complete works of William Shakespeare. Ten thousand monkeys typing for ten thousand years will write a Hemingway. Ten monkeys typing over Columbus Day weekend will give you a Dan Brown." http://olympusmans.blogspot.com http://benforrealz.blogspot.com

08-12-2004, 02:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cujo Lover AND a Fighter Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Canada eh! Posts: 758	Check out the reviews at AICN... I'll wait til it hits video... LINKAGE! __________________

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